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October 21, 2020 at 2:31 am #12544laurieParticipant
Hi
I used WSUS to push out the WIN10 1909 upgrade to a select group of computers and used BatchPatch with the “include Upgrades Option” to publish the upgrade to WIN10 computers.If I logon onto a WIN10 machine the upgrade appears under the items to install but you cannot use batchPatch to remotely start the install because you have to manually specify a time and there does not appear to be an option to do this.
Is there a way, batchPath or otherwise to kick off the install without visiting each machine and starting the install manually.
Changing active hours did not work for me.
Thanks
LaurieOctober 21, 2020 at 4:46 pm #12545dougModeratorLaurie – I’m actually not quite sure what you’re describing. When you use BatchPatch to download/install the feature update by selecting the ‘include upgrades’ option, it initiates the download/install process. The process does require a reboot before Windows will actually perform and complete the installation, so I’m not sure if you simply didn’t ever initiate the reboot or if you’re describing something different. Under normal circumstances when installing the feature updates with BP you would make sure that the update is showing in the “Check for available updates” and then you would select the “include upgrades” option to get BatchPatch to initiate the download/install when you select the BP action to ‘Download and install updates plus reboot if required’. Then upon reboot, the computer would complete the installation. And of course you can review the ‘Remote Agent Log’ column to ensure that BatchPatch executed the download/install of the feature update (or you can use ‘Actions > Windows Update > View BatchPatch.log’). If you don’t see the feature update in the list of updates that BP downloaded/installed, that would explain why you are not seeing it be installed by BP. I’m confused and unsure about what you are doing/experiencing.
The other way that you can use BatchPatch to deploy feature updates is described here: Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers
October 22, 2020 at 12:07 am #12546laurieParticipantHi Doug
Yes I am a tad confused as well.
I followed your instructions above and here is a link to what I see after the computer has been rebooted.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pFkuSWtxMfpAHfBNyAVBI2fRyKCGV-k5/view?usp=sharing
Notice how MS tell me they need my help to decide when restart to complete. If I click on Schedule a restart via the link and choose now the install will complete
October 22, 2020 at 12:13 am #12547laurieParticipantI should add that no amount of restarts will cause the upgrade to continue.
If I explicitly schedule a restart by clicking the link you see in the screen shot the installation continues and completes.Problem is I cannot do this remotely
October 22, 2020 at 12:57 am #12548dougModeratorThanks for the additional info and screenshot. At the moment I don’t know if something has changed in 1909 as compared to the previous Win 10 versions, or if there is something specific to your environment that is causing this. We’ll do some testing here with 1909 to see what we come up with.
What is the version of Win 10 that is on the machines now? I know you are upgrading to 1909, but which version is running before 1909 is applied?
Also, which Windows Update group policies do you currently have applied to these targets?
-Doug
October 22, 2020 at 1:01 am #12549laurieParticipantno worries
Windows 10 Enterprise
Version 1803
OS build 17134.1726October 22, 2020 at 1:38 am #12550dougModeratorCan you check your group policy settings?
Which policies are enabled under these locations?
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Windows Update for Business
I’m especially wondering if you have configured “Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received” and if you have the item inside that policy, “Pause Preview Builds or Feature Updates starting:“, configured with a date? However, I’d still also be interested to know which other policies are configured too in addition to this particular one. Thanks.
October 24, 2020 at 5:17 pm #12558dougModeratorI just realized I never asked you which version of BatchPatch you’re using. Are you using a version of BP that was released prior to 20200425 ? If yes, that’s your problem. The ability to install Win 10 feature updates through the normal Windows Update actions in BatchPatch only arrived in 20200425.
If you’re already using 20200425 or newer, then I’m sorry to say at the moment I’m just not sure what is causing your issue. If you’re already using 20200425 or newer, then for now your best workaround is to instead just deploy the feature update with the method outlined here:
Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers
October 25, 2020 at 11:04 pm #12559laurieParticipantHi
My version of BatchPatch is 2020.9.25.16.36
No worries, I don’t see anyone else with the same issue as myself either so I am simply going to complete the restart by remotely logging inOctober 25, 2020 at 11:47 pm #12560laurieParticipantHi Again
I’ve been asked to post this question on AskWoody since it looks OS related and not batchPatch. If I ever solve this one I’ll let you knowOctober 26, 2020 at 12:01 am #12561dougModeratorIf you’re interested in solving this I would ask you to please review my posting above about group policy objects, and please then let me know the answer to that question, as it might be what we need to figure out what is going on. Thanks.
October 26, 2020 at 12:36 am #12562laurieParticipantHi
I thought I had posted a reply to those questions but I sure don’t see it 🙂 Sorry about that
Will do.October 26, 2020 at 3:26 am #12563laurieParticipantHere’s my GP WSUS settings
https://drive.google.com/file/d/199tkYCC-gZgPe1ZaHGvnc7ur8zwmjvTd/view?usp=sharing
I have not configured any Windows Update for Business GPO setting.
October 26, 2020 at 7:49 am #12566dougModeratorThanks. I suspect your issue is arising due to your group policy settings. Most likely it would be from the use of either the “No auto-restart with logged on users” policy OR possibly the use of option 4 setting in the “Configure automatic updates” policy OR possibly the combination of the two. I would suggest removing the “No auto-restart with logged on users” setting and also changing the “Configure automatic updates” setting from 4 to 3. After the machine has received the new/updated policy settings, try once again to run the feature update process from BP (you’ll probably need to run it again from scratch as if you had never run it previously). I think there is a good chance that the feature update will now apply without prompting you to schedule it. Let me know how it goes.
October 27, 2020 at 12:43 am #12569laurieParticipantHi Doug
Thanks for the suggestions.
I applied the changes. The 1909 upgrade stopped on the install step as before but no mention of scheduling a time. No matter what I did in BP I could not get the upgrade to install.Finally logged onto the machine and pressed the install button manually and was then asked to schedule the install, exactly as per the screen shot above.
October 27, 2020 at 1:01 am #12570dougModeratorJust to confirm… after you modified the GPO and applied it, you ran the download/install/reboot from BP again? And then after the target machine rebooted, it didn’t automatically start the installation? Or did you not try the reboot? I ask because the reboot is necessary before it will proceed with the actual installation, so I just want to confirm that I understood what you did. Thanks.
October 27, 2020 at 1:05 am #12571laurieParticipantHi
I can confirm that I ran the download/install/reboot from BP again and after the machine rebooted the install did not start. It remained at the install option only
October 27, 2020 at 1:22 am #12572dougModeratorWeird, thanks. In your ‘All Messages’ column after the download/install, but before the reboot, you should have a line that says: “Windows Update: Feature update preparation complete.” Can you confirm that you do see this? Or did it fail? If it failed it would say “Windows Update: Feature update preparation failed: someExitCodeHere”.
Assuming that the preparation process completed without failing, my hunch is that the issue is still being caused by a GPO, though I’m not sure which one. We can’t reproduce it at the moment, and we have no other reports of it as of yet. I’ll let you know if we come up with any other ideas. Please also report back if you test anything else, such as removing *all* Windows Update GPOs before trying again.
And do keep in mind that at least as a workaround, if needed/desired, that you can always deploy the update using the BP deployment feature instead of the BP Windows Update feature, per the link noted a few postings above ( Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers )
October 27, 2020 at 1:34 am #12573laurieParticipantHere is what I have under all messages. I don’t see the message you describe.
Please ignore the Job called WIN10. It was only an install job and I’ve tried with and without it and the result is still the samePing Reply
Reply from 192.168.1.172 time=0ms
Reboot Messages
Reboot initiated successfully. – 13:50:38
Windows Update Messages
Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded – 13:50:38
Remote Agent Log
CLC-357 10/27/2020 13:50:34::Begin offline search
The search query “SoftwareAndDrivers” returned 1 update(s):
1> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64 (3368 MB) (2020-10-14) – Upgrades
(Type-SoftwareUpdate | Downloaded-TRUE | RebootRequired-MAYBE)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3012973::End search
::Begin filtering collection
adding> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64
::End filtering collection
There is 1 applicable update in the filtered collection
::Begin adding downloaded items to installer collectionadding> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64
::End adding downloaded items to installer collection
::Begin installation
1> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64 – Installation Result: Succeeded. Reboot Required: TRUE
::End installation
Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Reboot Required: TRUECLC-357 10/27/2020 13:50:37
Job Queue
* WIN10 Upgrade *
. . . . . . . . . .
Download and install updates + reboot if requiredJob Queue Activity
Execution complete: 27/10/2020 1:37:15 PM1: Download and install updates + reboot if required
Logged On Users
0 users
Pending Reboot
FALSE …isWindowsUpdateRebootPending: False
isComponentBasedServicingRebootPending: False
isUpdateExeVolatileRebootPending: False
isCCMclientUtilitiesRebootPending: UndeterminedPendingFileRenameOperations: NONE
All Messages
Tue-13:51:10> clc-357 ONLINE
Tue-13:50:58> clc-357 OFFLINE
Tue-13:50:38> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
Tue-13:50:38> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
Tue-13:50:38> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + reboot if required)
Tue-13:44:34> Remote Command: Exit Code: 0 (SUCCESS)
Tue-13:44:12> Remote Command: Executing \\clc-357 -s wuauclt.exe /detectnow
Tue-13:44:12> Remote Command: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:44:12> wuauclt.exe /detectnow: Queued…
Tue-13:37:53> clc-357 ONLINE
Tue-13:37:40> clc-357 OFFLINE
Tue-13:37:15> Job Queue: Execution complete
Tue-13:37:15> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
Tue-13:37:15> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
Tue-13:37:15> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Download and install updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’ | Server selection: Default / Managed) …
Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: Initiating ‘Download and install updates + reboot if required’
Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: * WIN10 Upgrade * queued…
Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: Queued…
Tue-13:35:19> clc-357 ONLINE
Tue-13:34:27> clc-357 OFFLINE
Tue-13:34:05> Reboot/Shutdown: Shutdown (force) initiated successfully
Tue-13:34:05> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate shutdown (force)…
Tue-13:34:04> Reboot/Shutdown: Failed to initiate shutdown. User is logged on.
Tue-13:34:04> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate shutdown…
Tue-13:34:04> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + shutdown)
Tue-13:30:58> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
Tue-13:26:39> Remote Command: Exit Code: 0 (SUCCESS)
Tue-13:26:18> Remote Command: Executing \\clc-357 -s wuauclt.exe /detectnow
Tue-13:26:18> Remote Command: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:26:17> wuauclt.exe /detectnow: Queued…
Tue-13:25:36> Windows Update: 1 update(s) found
Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Search for updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’ | Server selection: Default / Managed) …
Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Queued… (Check for available updates)
Tue-13:24:39> Windows Update: There are no applicable updates in the filtered collection
Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
Tue-13:21:55> Logged on users:
0 users
Tue-13:21:55> Logged on users: Attempting to retrieve list of logged on users…
Tue-13:13:59> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-13:13:34> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
Tue-10:27:53> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
Tue-10:25:21> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-10:25:16> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
Tue-10:22:29> Pending Reboot Status: FALSE
Tue-10:22:29> Pending Reboot: Attempting to retrieve pending reboot information + reboot if required (normal)…
Tue-10:22:09> clc-357 ONLINE
Tue-10:22:00> clc-357 OFFLINE
Tue-10:21:41> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
Tue-10:21:40> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
Tue-10:21:40> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Initializing…
Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + reboot if required)
—————————————————————————————————-October 27, 2020 at 1:57 am #12574dougModeratorOK that’s very helpful! So now it looks like we have the reason why it isn’t working, which is that there is no preparation step occurring. What I don’t know is why or how that could be getting skipped. I’ve just emailed you to request a HTML grid export for further, closer review. Let’s switch to email for now. Then I’ll come back and update this thread after we (hopefully) get to the bottom of what’s going on.
-Doug
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