WIN10 1909 Upgrade

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  • #12544
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi
    I used WSUS to push out the WIN10 1909 upgrade to a select group of computers and used BatchPatch with the “include Upgrades Option” to publish the upgrade to WIN10 computers.

    If I logon onto a WIN10 machine the upgrade appears under the items to install but you cannot use batchPatch to remotely start the install because you have to manually specify a time and there does not appear to be an option to do this.

    Is there a way, batchPath or otherwise to kick off the install without visiting each machine and starting the install manually.

    Changing active hours did not work for me.

    Thanks
    Laurie

    #12545
    doug
    Moderator

    Laurie – I’m actually not quite sure what you’re describing. When you use BatchPatch to download/install the feature update by selecting the ‘include upgrades’ option, it initiates the download/install process. The process does require a reboot before Windows will actually perform and complete the installation, so I’m not sure if you simply didn’t ever initiate the reboot or if you’re describing something different. Under normal circumstances when installing the feature updates with BP you would make sure that the update is showing in the “Check for available updates” and then you would select the “include upgrades” option to get BatchPatch to initiate the download/install when you select the BP action to ‘Download and install updates plus reboot if required’. Then upon reboot, the computer would complete the installation. And of course you can review the ‘Remote Agent Log’ column to ensure that BatchPatch executed the download/install of the feature update (or you can use ‘Actions > Windows Update > View BatchPatch.log’). If you don’t see the feature update in the list of updates that BP downloaded/installed, that would explain why you are not seeing it be installed by BP. I’m confused and unsure about what you are doing/experiencing.

    The other way that you can use BatchPatch to deploy feature updates is described here: Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers

    #12546
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi Doug

    Yes I am a tad confused as well.

    I followed your instructions above and here is a link to what I see after the computer has been rebooted.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pFkuSWtxMfpAHfBNyAVBI2fRyKCGV-k5/view?usp=sharing

    Notice how MS tell me they need my help to decide when restart to complete. If I click on Schedule a restart via the link and choose now the install will complete

    #12547
    laurie
    Participant

    I should add that no amount of restarts will cause the upgrade to continue.
    If I explicitly schedule a restart by clicking the link you see in the screen shot the installation continues and completes.

    Problem is I cannot do this remotely

    #12548
    doug
    Moderator

    Thanks for the additional info and screenshot. At the moment I don’t know if something has changed in 1909 as compared to the previous Win 10 versions, or if there is something specific to your environment that is causing this. We’ll do some testing here with 1909 to see what we come up with.

    What is the version of Win 10 that is on the machines now? I know you are upgrading to 1909, but which version is running before 1909 is applied?

    Also, which Windows Update group policies do you currently have applied to these targets?

    -Doug

    #12549
    laurie
    Participant

    no worries
    Windows 10 Enterprise
    Version 1803
    OS build 17134.1726

    #12550
    doug
    Moderator

    Can you check your group policy settings?

    Which policies are enabled under these locations?

    Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update

    Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Windows Update for Business

    I’m especially wondering if you have configured “Select when Preview Builds and Feature Updates are received” and if you have the item inside that policy, “Pause Preview Builds or Feature Updates starting:“, configured with a date? However, I’d still also be interested to know which other policies are configured too in addition to this particular one. Thanks.

    #12558
    doug
    Moderator

    I just realized I never asked you which version of BatchPatch you’re using. Are you using a version of BP that was released prior to 20200425 ? If yes, that’s your problem. The ability to install Win 10 feature updates through the normal Windows Update actions in BatchPatch only arrived in 20200425.

    If you’re already using 20200425 or newer, then I’m sorry to say at the moment I’m just not sure what is causing your issue. If you’re already using 20200425 or newer, then for now your best workaround is to instead just deploy the feature update with the method outlined here:

    Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers

    #12559
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi

    My version of BatchPatch is 2020.9.25.16.36
    No worries, I don’t see anyone else with the same issue as myself either so I am simply going to complete the restart by remotely logging in

    #12560
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi Again
    I’ve been asked to post this question on AskWoody since it looks OS related and not batchPatch. If I ever solve this one I’ll let you know

    #12561
    doug
    Moderator

    If you’re interested in solving this I would ask you to please review my posting above about group policy objects, and please then let me know the answer to that question, as it might be what we need to figure out what is going on. Thanks.

    #12562
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi

    I thought I had posted a reply to those questions but I sure don’t see it 🙂 Sorry about that
    Will do.

    #12563
    laurie
    Participant

    Here’s my GP WSUS settings

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/199tkYCC-gZgPe1ZaHGvnc7ur8zwmjvTd/view?usp=sharing

    I have not configured any Windows Update for Business GPO setting.

    #12566
    doug
    Moderator

    Thanks. I suspect your issue is arising due to your group policy settings. Most likely it would be from the use of either the “No auto-restart with logged on users” policy OR possibly the use of option 4 setting in the “Configure automatic updates” policy OR possibly the combination of the two. I would suggest removing the “No auto-restart with logged on users” setting and also changing the “Configure automatic updates” setting from 4 to 3. After the machine has received the new/updated policy settings, try once again to run the feature update process from BP (you’ll probably need to run it again from scratch as if you had never run it previously). I think there is a good chance that the feature update will now apply without prompting you to schedule it. Let me know how it goes.

    #12569
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi Doug
    Thanks for the suggestions.
    I applied the changes. The 1909 upgrade stopped on the install step as before but no mention of scheduling a time. No matter what I did in BP I could not get the upgrade to install.

    Finally logged onto the machine and pressed the install button manually and was then asked to schedule the install, exactly as per the screen shot above.

    #12570
    doug
    Moderator

    Just to confirm… after you modified the GPO and applied it, you ran the download/install/reboot from BP again? And then after the target machine rebooted, it didn’t automatically start the installation? Or did you not try the reboot? I ask because the reboot is necessary before it will proceed with the actual installation, so I just want to confirm that I understood what you did. Thanks.

    #12571
    laurie
    Participant

    Hi

    I can confirm that I ran the download/install/reboot from BP again and after the machine rebooted the install did not start. It remained at the install option only

    #12572
    doug
    Moderator

    Weird, thanks. In your ‘All Messages’ column after the download/install, but before the reboot, you should have a line that says: “Windows Update: Feature update preparation complete.” Can you confirm that you do see this? Or did it fail? If it failed it would say “Windows Update: Feature update preparation failed: someExitCodeHere”.

    Assuming that the preparation process completed without failing, my hunch is that the issue is still being caused by a GPO, though I’m not sure which one. We can’t reproduce it at the moment, and we have no other reports of it as of yet. I’ll let you know if we come up with any other ideas. Please also report back if you test anything else, such as removing *all* Windows Update GPOs before trying again.

    And do keep in mind that at least as a workaround, if needed/desired, that you can always deploy the update using the BP deployment feature instead of the BP Windows Update feature, per the link noted a few postings above ( Deploying Windows Feature Upgrades Remotely to Multiple Computers )

    #12573
    laurie
    Participant

    Here is what I have under all messages. I don’t see the message you describe.
    Please ignore the Job called WIN10. It was only an install job and I’ve tried with and without it and the result is still the same

    Ping Reply
    Reply from 192.168.1.172 time=0ms
    Reboot Messages
    Reboot initiated successfully. – 13:50:38
    Windows Update Messages
    Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded – 13:50:38
    Remote Agent Log
    CLC-357 10/27/2020 13:50:34

    ::Begin offline search

    The search query “SoftwareAndDrivers” returned 1 update(s):

    1> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64 (3368 MB) (2020-10-14) – Upgrades
    (Type-SoftwareUpdate | Downloaded-TRUE | RebootRequired-MAYBE)
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3012973

    ::End search

    ::Begin filtering collection

    adding> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64

    ::End filtering collection

    There is 1 applicable update in the filtered collection
    ::Begin adding downloaded items to installer collection

    adding> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64

    ::End adding downloaded items to installer collection

    ::Begin installation

    1> Feature update to Windows 10 (business editions), version 1909, en-us x64 – Installation Result: Succeeded. Reboot Required: TRUE

    ::End installation

    Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Reboot Required: TRUE

    CLC-357 10/27/2020 13:50:37
    Job Queue
    * WIN10 Upgrade *
    . . . . . . . . . .
    Download and install updates + reboot if required

    Job Queue Activity
    Execution complete: 27/10/2020 1:37:15 PM

    1: Download and install updates + reboot if required

    Logged On Users
    0 users
    Pending Reboot
    FALSE …

    isWindowsUpdateRebootPending: False
    isComponentBasedServicingRebootPending: False
    isUpdateExeVolatileRebootPending: False
    isCCMclientUtilitiesRebootPending: Undetermined

    PendingFileRenameOperations: NONE
    All Messages
    Tue-13:51:10> clc-357 ONLINE
    Tue-13:50:58> clc-357 OFFLINE
    Tue-13:50:38> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
    Tue-13:50:38> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
    Tue-13:50:38> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:50:13> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + reboot if required)
    Tue-13:44:34> Remote Command: Exit Code: 0 (SUCCESS)
    Tue-13:44:12> Remote Command: Executing \\clc-357 -s wuauclt.exe /detectnow
    Tue-13:44:12> Remote Command: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:44:12> wuauclt.exe /detectnow: Queued…
    Tue-13:37:53> clc-357 ONLINE
    Tue-13:37:40> clc-357 OFFLINE
    Tue-13:37:15> Job Queue: Execution complete
    Tue-13:37:15> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
    Tue-13:37:15> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
    Tue-13:37:15> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Download and install updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’ | Server selection: Default / Managed) …
    Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:36:44> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: Initiating ‘Download and install updates + reboot if required’
    Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: * WIN10 Upgrade * queued…
    Tue-13:36:44> Job Queue: Queued…
    Tue-13:35:19> clc-357 ONLINE
    Tue-13:34:27> clc-357 OFFLINE
    Tue-13:34:05> Reboot/Shutdown: Shutdown (force) initiated successfully
    Tue-13:34:05> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate shutdown (force)…
    Tue-13:34:04> Reboot/Shutdown: Failed to initiate shutdown. User is logged on.
    Tue-13:34:04> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate shutdown…
    Tue-13:34:04> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:33:39> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + shutdown)
    Tue-13:30:58> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:30:33> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
    Tue-13:26:39> Remote Command: Exit Code: 0 (SUCCESS)
    Tue-13:26:18> Remote Command: Executing \\clc-357 -s wuauclt.exe /detectnow
    Tue-13:26:18> Remote Command: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:26:17> wuauclt.exe /detectnow: Queued…
    Tue-13:25:36> Windows Update: 1 update(s) found
    Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Search for updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’ | Server selection: Default / Managed) …
    Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:25:11> Windows Update: Queued… (Check for available updates)
    Tue-13:24:39> Windows Update: There are no applicable updates in the filtered collection
    Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:24:14> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
    Tue-13:21:55> Logged on users:
    0 users
    Tue-13:21:55> Logged on users: Attempting to retrieve list of logged on users…
    Tue-13:13:59> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-13:13:34> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-13:13:33> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
    Tue-10:27:53> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-10:27:28> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
    Tue-10:25:21> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-10:25:16> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-10:24:15> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates)
    Tue-10:22:29> Pending Reboot Status: FALSE
    Tue-10:22:29> Pending Reboot: Attempting to retrieve pending reboot information + reboot if required (normal)…
    Tue-10:22:09> clc-357 ONLINE
    Tue-10:22:00> clc-357 OFFLINE
    Tue-10:21:41> Reboot/Shutdown: Reboot initiated successfully.
    Tue-10:21:40> Reboot/Shutdown: Attempting to initiate reboot…
    Tue-10:21:40> Windows Update: Reboot Required. Overall Installation Result: Succeeded
    Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Executing BatchPatchRemoteAgent.exe…
    Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Attempting to initiate Windows Update (Action: Install downloaded updates: ‘SoftwareAndDrivers’) …
    Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Establishing connection…
    Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Initializing…
    Tue-10:21:15> Windows Update: Queued… (Install downloaded updates + reboot if required)
    —————————————————————————————————-

    #12574
    doug
    Moderator

    OK that’s very helpful! So now it looks like we have the reason why it isn’t working, which is that there is no preparation step occurring. What I don’t know is why or how that could be getting skipped. I’ve just emailed you to request a HTML grid export for further, closer review. Let’s switch to email for now. Then I’ll come back and update this thread after we (hopefully) get to the bottom of what’s going on.

    -Doug

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